【Eye On U】灣區各有各風格 人才技術無邊界
港科技園：政府支持推動科技產業發展
今年是香港回歸祖國25周年，也是香港科學園成立20周年。香港科技園公司主席查毅超博士在節目中表示，香港科技園公司推出一系列舉措，助力科創企業更好地在粵港澳大灣區發展。香港科學園能夠為大學和業界之間的技術轉移提供哪些服務和支持？面對亞洲地區非常激烈的競爭，我們該如何改善香港的基礎設施，來加強對孵化企業的支持？
主持︰As we have mentioned that HKSTP is a very important I&T infrastructure in HK, when we talk about the competition, we are going to face a very fierce competition in Asia region. So how are we going to improve or extend the infrastructure in HK to enhance the support for tenants and for incubatees?
正如我們提到，香港科學園是香港一個非常重要的創科基礎設施，當我們談及競爭時，將在亞洲地區面臨非常激烈的競爭。那麼我們將如何改善或擴展香港的基礎設施以加強對租戶和孵化企業的支持？
嘉賓︰I think I&T ecosystems in different cities or countries do have different styles or ecosystems. For example, if you look at San Francisco, Tokyo, Shenzhen, Singapore and us, put people and technology aside first, because people and technology have no boundary, if I'm missing something in my development, I can acquire those technology from anywhere. So people and technology have no boundary. What does have a boundary is policy and the culture. The culture that has been created because of certain government policy.
我認為不同城市或國家的創科生態體系確實有不同的風格或自成一套的系統，如果你看看三藩市、東京、深圳、新加坡和我們的情況，先把人才和技術放在一邊，因為人才和技術是無界限的，如果我在發展中缺少什麼，我可以從其它任何地方獲得這些技術，所以人才和技術是沒有邊界的，有界限的是政策和文化，因為某些政府政策而產生的特定文化。
But if you look at San Francisco, the Bay Area in the US, government involvement is very little, so it's mostly invested in tech companies. But if you look at Japan, it has a tradition of having big companies who dominate the market, so usually when the startups want to do a proof-of-concept project, they have to rely on bigger companies, as they grow slowly and when they become a bit more successful, those companies are acquired, or absorbed into the bigger company. That's why you see there's not much unicorns comparing to the ratio that we have in HK.
但是如果你看一下美國三藩市灣區的話，政府的參與非常少，所以它主要是投資於科技公司；但是如果你去看日本，它有一個傳統，就是由大公司來主導市場，所以通常當初創企業想做一個概念驗證項目時，他們必須依靠大公司，當他們慢慢成長變得稍微成功些時，這些初創企業就會被收購，或者被吸收進更大的公司中去。這就是為什麼你會看到和香港相比，日本並沒有多少獨角獸公司。
HK, I must say, in these 5-7 years, the funding and the support given from the government is tremendous, so it's no black magic. When there's a support from the government, there's a policy to drive all these to move forward. As HKSTP is the major I&T platform here, as an operator, we must do the right thing to promote and to drive the whole thing. I won't bother with the competitions because when we have a good ecosystem, people will come here, especially we are within GBA.
香港，我必須說，在這5年至7年內，政府提供的資金是很豐厚的，給予的支持也很多，所以這不是什麼黑魔法。當政府提供支持時，才會有相關政策來推動所有這些向前發展。由於香港科學園是本地主要的創科平台，我們作為運營者必須做正確的事情來促進和推動整個項目的發展。我不會去過多煩惱競爭（激烈）的事情，因為當我們有一個好的生態系統，人們就會來這裏發展，尤其是我們位於大灣區這個環境裏。
I've been serving Innovation and Technology Commission since 2006, and I myself have been an industrialist for over 35 years. So if you ask me, for a city like HK, the first thing is that we have such a good level of universities here. The technology level of our university here is just marvelous, five universities are within QS 100 here. Comparing to other main cities like London or New York, Tokyo, They probably have two or one, and we have five within just a very small area, footprint in HK. So first of all, the university standing in HK is no question a big support to our I&T ecosystem.
我從2006年開始在創新科技署任職，自己作為實業家也超過35年了。所以如果你問我，對於香港這樣一個城市來說，首先是我們這裏的大學水平較高。
本地大學的科研水平是非常了不起的，有五所大學進入了QS世界大學排名前100名，相比起其他主要城市如倫敦、紐約、東京，他們可能有兩所或一所，而我們有五所，還是在香港這樣一個非常小的區域內。因此，香港的大學地位毫無疑問是對我們創科生態系統的巨大支持。
With our tradition in the 70's or before the 70's, our industry rely on foreign companies to give us business to do production, so we were more like on OEM, ODM basis. And then since 80's, a lot of factories have moved their major businesses, production to the Mainland. So you see a lot of technologies or tech people having moved to the Mainland.
在上世紀七十年代或之前，我們的產業主要依靠外國公司給我們的業務來進行生產，所以基本是原始設備製造（代工生產）或者原廠委託設計代工。然後從上世紀八十年代開始很多工廠，把他們的主要業務和生產轉移到了內地，所以你看到很多技術或科技人員都轉移到了內地。
And do we have a gap there? Perhaps yes, but that could be policy in the 80's or 90's to retain some of these tech people here. So in the last 20 years, you see the evolution. We all knew that technology is something that we need to retain and drive in HK, but we were quite slow in the first decade after the year 2000. So if you ask me without the help of government, without the support, without these policies, it will take more time. So the government support and help in these few years, really boosted the whole thing like exponential.
那我們在這方面有差距嗎？也許是的，但這可能是上世紀八十年代或九十年代的政策，為了留住一些科技人才。所以在過去的20年裏，你看到了它在逐漸發展。我們都知道，科技是香港需要完善保留和持續發展的方面，但在2000年後的第一個十年裏，我們的發展相當緩慢。所以說，如果沒有政府的幫助，沒有政府的政策支持等，那科技技術的發展將需要更多的時間。在政府這幾年的支持和幫助下，整個產業的發展得到了真正的推動，可以說是指數型的增長。
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